45-70

Critter9a

Load Data Eligible Henry steel 357 Magnum
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when I first decided I was going to reload for 45-70 I was only going to load 10 rounds and wait for this covid stupidity to cease to get a rifle. well, I'm tired of waiting and bored silly so, I am reloading all 100 rounds. not sure what I will do with them since I don't have the rifle yet. Maybe just vacuum pack them and save for a rainy day or for my son to use when wild buffalo or elephants go on a vicious killing rampage
 

walterbunning

Load Data Eligible Ruger Blackhawk
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when I first decided I was going to reload for 45-70 I was only going to load 10 rounds and wait for this covid stupidity to cease to get a rifle. well, I'm tired of waiting and bored silly so, I am reloading all 100 rounds. not sure what I will do with them since I don't have the rifle yet. Maybe just vacuum pack them and save for a rainy day or for my son to use when wild buffalo or elephants go on a vicious killing rampage
Hey..fun is fun. Might as well enjoy the hobby of reloading! Good for you.
 

Veryolddog

Foxtrot Mike 8.5" 45 ACP SMG Pistol
That is very optimistic. I guess, once you reload your 100 rounds, then you can leisurely spend your time looking for a 45-70 rifle. If you decide on a Marlin, you may want to wait a while until they are fully absorbed by Ruger, then you can be assured that it is a well made firearm. On the other hand, there are Henry's. Take your time. Have fun.
 

Critter9a

Load Data Eligible Henry steel 357 Magnum
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That is very optimistic. I guess, once you reload your 100 rounds, then you can leisurely spend your time looking for a 45-70 rifle. If you decide on a Marlin, you may want to wait a while until they are fully absorbed by Ruger, then you can be assured that it is a well made firearm. On the other hand, there are Henry's. Take your time. Have fun.
I was looking really hard at the marlin 1895 GBL model. I might have to wait another year to make sure quality measures up
 

Critter9a

Load Data Eligible Henry steel 357 Magnum
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I have the Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70. It is over 20 years old, made long before Marlin went to Remington and made in New Haven, CT. Hate to tell you but, I purchased it brand new for $395.00
I had a marlin 30-30 I bought in 92 was 275 or 300 been so long I don't remember lol the GBL I was looking at was $645 within 3 days of making decision it jumped to $675 then over $700 and I bowed out
 

sgtsandman

*Load Data Eligible Kimber 1911 45ACP
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I was looking really hard at the marlin 1895 GBL model. I might have to wait another year to make sure quality measures up
I would look for a rifle built before 2004 if you go with Marlin. The way to tell is to look for the JM stamp on the left side of the barrel near the receiver. 2004 on, they don't have that. If you must have new, the later it was made, the better since they have worked out a lot of the problems they were having from moving facilities and losing experienced workers. Since you are looking at a Guide Gun, get one with the muzzle porting if you can find one. The porting will help with the muzzle rise and reduce some of the recoil.

If I was to buy brand new. Right now I would look at Henry. I believe they have side gate loading model in 45/70 Government now. Tube loading is ok (I have it on my Henry 001) but side gate loading is better.
 

Critter9a

Load Data Eligible Henry steel 357 Magnum
Staff member
I would look for a rifle built before 2004 if you go with Marlin. The way to tell is to look for the JM stamp on the left side of the barrel near the receiver. 2004 on, they don't have that. If you must have new, the later it was made, the better since they have worked out a lot of the problems they were having from moving facilities and losing experienced workers. Since you are looking at a Guide Gun, get one with the muzzle porting if you can find one. The porting will help with the muzzle rise and reduce some of the recoil.

If I was to buy brand new. Right now I would look at Henry. I believe they have side gate loading model in 45/70 Government now. Tube loading is ok (I have it on my Henry 001) but side gate loading is better.
I might have to go with Henry. Marlin had more capacity and was cheaper by 150. now I just don't want to buy junk
 

sgtsandman

*Load Data Eligible Kimber 1911 45ACP
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I might have to go with Henry. Marlin had more capacity and was cheaper by 150. now I just don't want to buy junk
I just wanted to make sure you went in knowing the whole background and what to look for so you didn't end up with a problem rifle. A lot of that has been gone over on the Marlin Owners Forum. Everything built under Freedom/Remington Group has been called a Remlin by the members over there.
 
I was in the same boat. I was looking for a new Marlin in 44 Mag. Could not find one this late into the Bankruptcy. My LGS said that all he had was a Henry Steel in 45/70. Thought that I really did not need a rifle like that (Hammer) but I ended up buying it. Thought that I would just reload for it around 10 rounds at a time. I also bought a box of 200 Laser Cast 300 gr RNFP bullets with the rifle. Found a bag of Starline brass and some H322 and IMR-4198. Now I have loaded up 100 rounds and I don't have the rifle. It was sent back to Henry that should receive it today in the Wisconsin factory. With the sights straight it was shooting a foot to the left at 25 yards and the receiver when I put the Skinner sights on it was drilled 1/16" to the left of the receiver.
See what they do with it, I am sure Henry will make it right. Really nice rifle though. But about all my shoulder would take was 10 rounds in a row. WOW what a thumper she is.
 

Reb Tyree

Load Data Elibible CZ75B SA
I was in the same boat. I was looking for a new Marlin in 44 Mag. Could not find one this late into the Bankruptcy. My LGS said that all he had was a Henry Steel in 45/70. Thought that I really did not need a rifle like that (Hammer) but I ended up buying it. Thought that I would just reload for it around 10 rounds at a time. I also bought a box of 200 Laser Cast 300 gr RNFP bullets with the rifle. Found a bag of Starline brass and some H322 and IMR-4198. Now I have loaded up 100 rounds and I don't have the rifle. It was sent back to Henry that should receive it today in the Wisconsin factory. With the sights straight it was shooting a foot to the left at 25 yards and the receiver when I put the Skinner sights on it was drilled 1/16" to the left of the receiver.
See what they do with it, I am sure Henry will make it right. Really nice rifle though. But about all my shoulder would take was 10 rounds in a row. WOW what a thumper she is.
Good Morning jStanfield, sorry to hear about your Henry rifle. Have you thought about trying out a "Limb Saver" slip on buttstock pad for your Henry rifle?

Trust me, after a shoulder injury that resulted in a couple of surgeries to repair the damage and another 18 months of recovery. It's helped me out to be able to shoot my Marlin Guide gun in 45-70!!! Also take a look at a slip on shoulder pad, goes over your shoulder and provides additional padding to help save the shoulder and surrounding area!!!

Reb Tyree and my merry band of fur buddies!
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walterbunning

Load Data Eligible Ruger Blackhawk
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With the sights straight it was shooting a foot to the left at 25 yards and the receiver when I put the Skinner sights on it was drilled 1/16" to the left of the receiver.
See what they do with it, I am sure Henry will make it right. Really nice rifle though. But about all my shoulder would take was 10 rounds in a row. WOW what a thumper she is.
Yikes, that’s horrible! Mine shoots very well with the Skinner peep on it. I load mine down somewhat to keep my shoulder intact 🤣
 
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