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Reloader762

*Load Data Eligible M91/30 Mosin
Powder coated around 200 of the Lee .312" 160 gr. TL bullets I cast up Saturday morning before it got to hot out in the shed, it was already 90 degrees outside by noon so I saved the rest to PC later when I'm gas checking and sizing the ones I coated yesterday. Did about 50 each in Clear, Green, Gray and Blue and will be shooing these sized accordingly in my SKS, Mosin, 30-06 and 300 Sav. it's a pretty versatile bullet in lots of rifle cartridges.

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Reb Tyree

Load Data Elibible CZ75B SA
Powder coated around 200 of the Lee .312" 160 gr. TL bullets I cast up Saturday morning before it got to hot out in the shed, it was already 90 degrees outside by noon so I saved the rest to PC later when I'm gas checking and sizing the ones I coated yesterday. Did about 50 each in Clear, Green, Gray and Blue and will be shooing these sized accordingly in my SKS, Mosin, 30-06 and 300 Sav. it's a pretty versatile bullet in lots of rifle cartridges.

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Good Morning Reloader762, those bullets look great!!! Which model of the SKS do you have, Chicom, Russian, etc?

I've been thinking of trying to cast some bullets for my chicom SKS. I haven't had mine out to shoot now for a couple of years. To many other rifle projects that I've been working on and the Chicom SKS got moved to the bottem of my list of projects.

I also built an upper for one of my AR's in 7.62x39 and the cost of Russian ammo and components was cheap.

I had a good stock of reloading supplies for that caliber for both rifles.One of my projects, I'm working on some 7.62x39 loads with the Speer gold dot bullets for both rifles.
 

Veryolddog

Hand Press
I think that it is absolutely great that you have the skills and capability to do such fine work on your own projectiles. I have thought about doing this as another part of the reloading process but, simply put, my enthusiasm level is not great these days. It is really something that you can take this entire reloading process from absolute scratch to completion.
 

Reloader762

*Load Data Eligible M91/30 Mosin
@Rab Tyree I have three SKS rifles that I have collected over the past fifteen years. My first was a 1970 Yugoslavian refurb that has a mint bore, my second SKS I picked up a few year later is a 1965 Chinese Jianshe Arsenal /26\ with all milled parts that I bought new in the box. An last but not least is my 1952r Black Bolt Russian refurb I picked up still in the box that was stuck back in the gun safe from a friend of mine who is a FFL. He sold it to me for about half the going price of what a used Russian sells for these days.

When I first got the Yugo SKS I wasn't casting for rifles yet but I wanted to reload my own ammo for accuracy and hunting purposes with better quality bullets as well as be prepared just in cast the cheap steel case ammo wasn't available which has been the case about three time now, but I do have a good stash of good quality steel came ammo in my rainy day stash.

I loaded jacketed bullets for a few years mainly the Hornady .310" 123 gr. FMJ, SP and V-Max as well as a couple 150 gr. .311" SP bullets made my PPU and Speer to duplicate the Barnaul 150 gr. SP steel case ammo. I also loaded and shot .310" and .311" surplus pulls in the 147 to 185 gr. range from some old 1950s 7.62 × 54r surplus ammo that I tore down because of seasonal cracking of the brass.

As far as cast bullets in the SKS any of the Lee .312" dia. bullets be it the 155 gr. or the 160 gr. TL or the 185 gr. RN if you like a heavy thumper will shoot great in the SKS. I tend to like the long 160 and 185 gr. bullets powder coated and gas checked the best, but the 155 gr. may work better in the AR. There are quite a few powders that will work well in the 7.62 × 39, The Lyman manual has data for the two lighter Lee bullets and use the Ed Harris 2400 load data as well but if you want a powder that work with both jacketed and cast lead equally I like Reloader #7. I know they make Shooter World Blackout and CFE Black for the 7.62 × 39 but I have no data on using those powders with cast lead bullets. For the 185 gr. .312" Lee bullet I just use either of the 4895 powders, you can stuff the case with all it will hold an never have to worry about over pressure but I find 24.0 gr.s to be plenty for casual plinking or close range hunting.

As far as brass I lucked up back in the day as it was fairly easy and cheap to get as nobody much wanted it I bought 1K pieces from Wideners Reloading for $80 and they had Hornady 123 gr. SP buy the 1K lot for the same price. They are a bit more expensive these days and why I shot cast lead loads pretty much 99% of the time. Starline has a good price on X39 brass compared to what once fire anything else cost. I probably have around 2500 pieces as back during one of the steel case ammo shortage years ago people at the local range that didn't reload shoot the brass case ammo and I was able to buy the once fired stuff for 10 cents a pop. picked up several hundred pieces of once fired 7.62 x 54r as well at the same time.

Some good info on SKS rifles and the cartridge.

http://www.yooperj.com/SKS.htm

http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/762x39_cartridge.html

http://demigodllc.com/articles/7.62x39-improving-the-military-standard/?p=4

https://web.archive.org/web/20050831080938/http://www.surplusrifle.com:80/sks/index.asp

https://rifleshooter.com/2017/04/reloading-the-7-62x39-mm-russian-load-development-with-125-and-150-gr-bullets/

Like to know how those Speer Gold Dot bullets shoot for you in the 7.62 × 39. I haven't bought a jacketed bullet in probably ten years for the 7.62 x 39 as I have plenty stash back for a rainy day but I've been thinking about trying some of the Speer GD bullets.
 
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Reloader762

*Load Data Eligible M91/30 Mosin
I think that it is absolutely great that you have the skills and capability to do such fine work on your own projectiles. I have thought about doing this as another part of the reloading process but, simply put, my enthusiasm level is not great these days. It is really something that you can take this entire reloading process from absolute scratch to completion.
Thanks Veryolddog, I've been at it a long time. I started out in the crawl space under my dads house with my Lyman press mounted to an old wooden door on cement blocks sitting on an old milk crate loading 22 Hornet ammo and it just progressed from there. At the time all I had was my reloading manual and my faith in my ability to make better ammo than I could buy. I'm still using the same old press and some of the other tools I originally started out with I have dies and equipment from Lyman, RCBS, Lee, etc.

I started out casting for my first handgun which is my Ruger 357 Mag / 9 mm Luger convertible, now I cast for all my handguns and rifles in twelve different calibers using 30+ different molds from Lee, Arsenal, Lyman / Ideal and Accurate. Reloading, casting and shooting are my hobbies and its what I enjoy doing when I'm not working for the man or working on the honey do list.
 
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walterbunning

Load Data Eligible Ruger Blackhawk
Staff member
Powder coated around 200 of the Lee .312" 160 gr. TL bullets I cast up Saturday morning before it got to hot out in the shed, it was already 90 degrees outside by noon so I saved the rest to PC later when I'm gas checking and sizing the ones I coated yesterday. Did about 50 each in Clear, Green, Gray and Blue and will be shooing these sized accordingly in my SKS, Mosin, 30-06 and 300 Sav. it's a pretty versatile bullet in lots of rifle cartridges.
Sweet. That looks like it provided you a lot of fun!
 

Reb Tyree

Load Data Elibible CZ75B SA
@Rab Tyree I have three SKS rifles that I have collected over the past fifteen years. My first was a 1970 Yugoslavian refurb that has a mint bore, my second SKS I picked up a few year later is a 1965 Chinese Jianshe Arsenal /26\ with all milled parts that I bought new in the box. An last but not least is my 1952r Black Bolt Russian refurb I picked up still in the box that was stuck back in the gun safe from a friend of mine who is a FFL. He sold it to me for about half the going price of what a used Russian sells for these days.

When I first got the Yugo SKS I wasn't casting for rifles yet but I wanted to reload my own ammo for accuracy and hunting purposes with better quality bullets as well as be prepared just in cast the cheap steel case ammo wasn't available which has been the case about three time now, but I do have a good stash of good quality steel came ammo in my rainy day stash.

I loaded jacketed bullets for a few years mainly the Hornady .310" 123 gr. FMJ, SP and V-Max as well as a couple 150 gr. .311" SP bullets made my PPU and Speer to duplicate the Barnaul 150 gr. SP steel case ammo. I also loaded and shot .310" and .311" surplus pulls in the 147 to 185 gr. range from some old 1950s 7.62 × 54r surplus ammo that I tore down because of seasonal cracking of the brass.

As far as cast bullets in the SKS any of the Lee .312" dia. bullets be it the 155 gr. or the 160 gr. TL or the 185 gr. RN if you like a heavy thumper will shoot great in the SKS. I tend to like the long 160 and 185 gr. bullets powder coated and gas checked the best, but the 155 gr. may work better in the AR. There are quite a few powders that will work well in the 7.62 × 39, The Lyman manual has data for the two lighter Lee bullets and use the Ed Harris 2400 load data as well but if you want a powder that work with both jacketed and cast lead equally I like Reloader #7. I know they make Shooter World Blackout and CFE Black for the 7.62 × 39 but I have no data on using those powders with cast lead bullets. For the 185 gr. .312" Lee bullet I just use either of the 4895 powders, you can stuff the case with all it will hold an never have to worry about over pressure but I find 24.0 gr.s to be plenty for casual plinking or close range hunting.

As far as brass I lucked up back in the day as it was fairly easy and cheap to get as nobody much wanted it I bought 1K pieces from Wideners Reloading for $80 and they had Hornady 123 gr. SP buy the 1K lot for the same price. They are a bit more expensive these days and why I shot cast lead loads pretty much 99% of the time. Starline has a good price on X39 brass compared to what once fire anything else cost. I probably have around 2500 pieces as back during one of the steel case ammo shortage years ago people at the local range that didn't reload shoot the brass case ammo and I was able to buy the once fired stuff for 10 cents a pop. picked up several hundred pieces of once fired 7.62 x 54r as well at the same time.

Some good info on SKS rifles and the cartridge.

http://www.yooperj.com/SKS.htm

http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/762x39_cartridge.html

http://demigodllc.com/articles/7.62x39-improving-the-military-standard/?p=4

https://web.archive.org/web/20050831080938/http://www.surplusrifle.com:80/sks/index.asp

https://rifleshooter.com/2017/04/reloading-the-7-62x39-mm-russian-load-development-with-125-and-150-gr-bullets/

Like to know how those Speer Gold Dot bullets shoot for you in the 7.62 × 39. I haven't bought a jacketed bullet in probably ten years for the 7.62 x 39 as I have plenty stash back for a rainy day but I've been thinking about trying some of the Speer GD bullets.
Thanks for the info!!! I've been reloading with Starline, Winchester and PPU brass, and Midways bulk bullets 123 gr SP, FMJ's or whatever I could find on sale or clearance for 7.62x39.

Reb
 
Those bullets look awesome! I've been debating on whether or not to get coated bullets, lead bullets, or go with jacketed. Do you use different load data for coated as compared to lead or jacketed bullets? I do like the colors (Philadelphia Eagles vs. Dallas Cowboys)!!!
 

Reloader762

*Load Data Eligible M91/30 Mosin
Those bullets look awesome! I've been debating on whether or not to get coated bullets, lead bullets, or go with jacketed. Do you use different load data for coated as compared to lead or jacketed bullets? I do like the colors (Philadelphia Eagles vs. Dallas Cowboys)!!!
I'm not aware of any reloading manuals presently that give specific load data for coated bullets per se, however I just use regular lead bullet data found in the Lyman Cast Bullet manual or from powder mfg. online and work my load up using that data and I've had no issues.

In many instances with most handguns calibers except for rare occasions and some rifle calibers generally around 2300 fps. or lower you will find that it's pretty common to obtain the same factory velocity / accuracy with cast lead bullet coated or uncoated at a cheaper cost per round than using jacketed bullets. For target shooting / plinking, hunting small or large game such as deer or pigs etc. or as a last resort if it comes down to it self-defense with a cast bullet designed for that purpose will do as well as any jacketed bullet. Cast bullet molds come in many flavors just like any of the plated or jacketed bullets you find on the market, it just takes a little more investment in your time and making a bullet and load that preforms like you want it to rather than just reaching into a box of factory jacketed bullets.

I have no problems with jacketed bullets, some people can't or just don't like messing with lead bullets, have issued with them leading there rifle and pistol bores which can be caused by multiple reason or just don't have the time to cast their own, I have jacketed bullets for several of my handguns and rifles but I hardly ever shoot them unless I just want to shoot an expensive bullet down range at maximum velocity for no other reason than I can, but for 99% of all my shooting needs cast lead does anything a jacketed bullet will do.
 
I'm not aware of any reloading manuals presently that give specific load data for coated bullets per se, however I just use regular lead bullet data found in the Lyman Cast Bullet manual or from powder mfg. online and work my load up using that data and I've had no issues.

In many instances with most handguns calibers except for rare occasions and some rifle calibers generally around 2300 fps. or lower you will find that it's pretty common to obtain the same factory velocity / accuracy with cast lead bullet coated or uncoated at a cheaper cost per round than using jacketed bullets. For target shooting / plinking, hunting small or large game such as deer or pigs etc. or as a last resort if it comes down to it self-defense with a cast bullet designed for that purpose will do as well as any jacketed bullet. Cast bullet molds come in many flavors just like any of the plated or jacketed bullets you find on the market, it just takes a little more investment in your time and making a bullet and load that preforms like you want it to rather than just reaching into a box of factory jacketed bullets.

I have no problems with jacketed bullets, some people can't or just don't like messing with lead bullets, have issued with them leading there rifle and pistol bores which can be caused by multiple reason or just don't have the time to cast their own, I have jacketed bullets for several of my handguns and rifles but I hardly ever shoot them unless I just want to shoot an expensive bullet down range at maximum velocity for no other reason than I can, but for 99% of all my shooting needs cast lead does anything a jacketed bullet will do.
Thanks for the info. I might try some lead casting down the line. I really like those coated bullets. Watched a couple of videos on powder coating and it looks pretty straight forward. Not too complicated. Need to get a sizing die though.
 
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